Every 10 minutes, an Australian suffers from a heart attack, with an average of 21 people dying from a heart attack every day.

“I find these figures startling,” says John Stanley.

Many of these would be preventable if people knew how to perform CPR or if there was a defibrillator on hand.

Australian Hearts is ramping up a campaign to get a defibrillator in every workplace by 2020, and to educate people on how to use them.

Spokesperson Matt Andrews joins John Stantely to explain what to do, and how to use a defibrillator if someone goes into cardiac arrest.

He says when performing CPR, don’t be afraid to use force.

“Be forceful… if you’re going to break a rib, that’s okay, better than being dead.”

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